HSBC's Education Forum : Dr Madhav Chavan - Pratham

Dr. Chavan on the present status of UEE.

UEE (Universalisation of Elementary Education) essentially means that children from the age group of 6 to 14 (from 1st standard to 8th standard) should be in school in their appropriate age.
Current status explains the enrollment from 1st standard to 4th standard (or age group of 6 to 10) are nearly 97%. The problem is with the higher standards i.e. between 5th and 8th (age group of 11 to 14), where the enrollment is 92% -93% and 7% of children from this age group are not in school yet.
Though it looks like a decent picture, there are three problems with it.

One problem is that in the northern states where the enrollment picked up in the year 2001-2002 and mostly in the last 3 to 4 years, the attendance in school is very low (low as 50% to 60%) in the states like Bihar. However in the southern states, universal education was nearly achieved towards the turn of the century. The attendance is also pretty high. In states like Maharashtra, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Kerala around 88% to 89% of children attend the school on any given day.

Second problem is again in the northern states, where large-scale enrollment is recent but the problem is that, about 12% to 15% of older children are actually studying in lower standards (like 1st 2nd 3rd). These children never went to school, which means they can never complete eight years of education (UEE). These students will probably go up to 4th or 5th standard but not beyond that. There are a sizeable proportion of children who are not attending the lower standard, although they are senior in age.

Third problem is a biggest setback. So many children attend the schools; they are learning little but learning late. This is applicable in the northern as well as southern states. 100% children studying in 6th or 7th standard can read about 2nd standard text level.
By 5th only 50% children are learning or 55% children can read the 2nd standard text.
The southern states are not doing very well in terms of children learning to read early. If they do not learn to read early, then the textbooks, comprehensions, accessing knowledge on their own is a big hurdle. For example, the knowledge of Maths subject is very weak. Only about 43 children can solve a division sum while understanding fractions is another problem. The quality of learning in government as well as in private schools, excluding elite schools is extremely poor.
The ratio of girls and boys enrollment and attendance are good. An independent study conducted by the government proves that and we can also see that. However in private schools, boys are 20% more than girls giving a 60% - 40% difference.

 

Dr. Chavan on India’s target of achieving UEE.

We are reaching the last stage (of UEE) and thus have problems of different nature. These last mile problems have to be dealt differently. There are certain districts or blocks that are neglected, the muslin minority population of Bihar, West Bengal, tribal areas of some states, Rajasthan because of its social backwardness.

The solution of these problems is not just opening schools. They can be solved in many other ways. Like the Bihar government has taken extremely positive steps to bring the Maha-dalits into mainstream education and development. These kinds of social developments has to be under taken

I don’t think universalisation is very far; it won’t take more than 3 to 5 years. And there is an international millennium goal deadline of 2015. So, India will reach it’s goal but serious efforts have to be made.


Dr. Chavan on the performance of states in last 10 years in regards with UEE.

Bihar started very low. In 4 to 5years Bihar’s school dropouts were from 14% to 15%.
However in the last 3-4 years the proportion of dropouts (in Bihar) has fallen by around 12%, which is huge improvement. They have covered a lot of grounds; they have opened more schools, recruited many more teachers. But the quality of education in Bihar can be improved further.

On the issue of learning, states like Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Himachal Pradesh, have being successful in their special efforts.

There is a very interesting exercise happening in Tamil Nadu, called activity based learning, but we don’t see any learning improvement. In the activity, they have converted the textbooks into reading cards. It is essentially saying that a child can learn according to a learning ladder at his/her own pace rather than allotting them in standards. The teachers are not allowed to teach as much as the child is allowed to learn.
Based on the Rishi-valley school method, it is an interesting exercise but on scale with the kinds of schools and children the method has not been successful. We don’t see much change in the learning levels, it seems that children who were learning and could learn have benefited while the children who are lagging behind are not picking up either.

 

Dr. Chavan on the quality of education being affected over the rush of putting every child in school.

Every child must be in school. However the problem does not lie in about putting every child in school but we being a semiliterate country.
All our human resources are of a semiliterate country. In an educated country, you have many well-informed people.

In a semiliterate country, teachers even to the extend of some of our engineers do not know what they are doing. As the quality of education and higher education is poor, the product also of it is also deprived.

We have multiple problems. I think we have to raise quality of our teachers; apart from the teaching methods, their knowledge base should be improved.

It is not about the hurry of putting the children into schools, they should be in school.
Even though I complain that children are not learning, it is for them to come to school and learn to socialize, get to know how to deal with each other.

There is evidence that once a child gone to school will get their children educated. There is enough proof that when a child spends 5 or 6 years of his life in school, even with out learning too much; It does impact the family environment of the chills

So the result not of a small value but has large values. It is a very important achievement.

 

Dr Madhav Chavan on Education in Eastern India

They are doing fairly well, although the schools in Northeast are not educationally advanced. We see population from the Northeast among the educated middle classes in cities like Mumbai, Delhi etc.

Assam is not doing too well. But if you look at smaller states Nagaland , Mizoram, Manipur are doing quite well. They have a large proportion of private and government schools.

Within the range of states of India, they are not above average neither they have highly quality education. I wouldn’t say that they are any more backward than the rest of the states or even more advanced than any other states

In Arunachal Pradesh the problems are quite different, the population is spread out in the hilly areas. In this case we have to start looking at different models and schooling efforts. For example in deserts of Australia, the houses are miles apart and how do they provide education. We can use that at Ladakh, Arunachal Pradesh.